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03-14-2007, 5:30 PM PeterHalbert Joined on 02-28-2007 Sydney Posts 3 Clarion 100 / IronSpeed 1 --------------------    Report

03-15-2007, 6:52 AM Russ Joined on 10-20-2005 Posts 223 Re: Clarion 100 / IronSpeed 1 I think using Softvelocity's forums to promote another product is a cheap shot. Especially when done to punish. I think this whole thread should be deleted. Russ Eggen www.radfusion.com    Report

03-15-2007, 8:13 AM Z-Micro Joined on 10-26-2005 Scottsdale, AZ USA Posts 1 Re: Clarion 100 / IronSpeed 0 I totally agree with Russ. If you don't have any foresight and trust in SoftVelocity, then by all means use another software product - that's your perogative. However, coming to this forum which is setup by SoftVelocity to help assist their developers and then suggesting developers switch to another platform in the manner you did is unprofessional. I  have been using Clarion since 1985 and my company wouldn't be as successful as it is today if it wasn't for them. How many development tools can you say have stood the test of time over 20+ years like Clarion has? Not many. No one product is perfect, but in my book when it comes to developing programs that are used by thousands of commercial customers demanding high performance and stability, I want a product that has a track record. I'll place my bet with Clarion anytime. Bob Zimmerlich President Z-Micro Technologies, Inc.    Report

03-15-2007, 9:08 AM Tony Tetley Joined on 10-25-2005 Missouri, USA Posts 80 Re: Clarion 100 / IronSpeed 1 Peter, I am certainly not the message forum police, but I think this is an inappropriate post and should be removed. Tony    Report

03-15-2007, 5:24 PM Gustavo Pinsard Joined on 10-20-2005 Marília, Brazil Posts 32 Re: Clarion 100 / IronSpeed 1 Who the hell are you, fella?  If you're tired of anything, go get some rest and let those who know how to use Clarion keep doing business. Clarion has beaten Visual Objects, Clipper, survived the Delphi thingy, Power Builder and a lot more exoteric tools/languages.  It won't be you the one who will diminish Clarion's real power. Z is not a pro PR folk, okay, we all know that.  But the guy is producing some real stuff that go way beyound your understanding and capabilities, probably. I'm not as polished as others who responded to your sick post, but you weren't also.  Get lost, idiot! Want peace? Then you already know what it takes.    Report

03-16-2007, 3:28 AM Hal Heindel Joined on 10-22-2005 Rochester, NY Posts 57 Re: Clarion 100 / IronSpeed 1 "Clarion has beaten Visual Objects, Clipper, survived the Delphi thingy, Power Builder and a lot more esoteric tools/languages." Not to mention Operating Systems, Gustavo! Yesterday, I installed Clarion 5.5 and my 11-megabyte, hand-coded Printing Estimating applications onto a new PC loaded with Vista. Both ran without a hiccup. Wonder if Ironspeed users will be so lucky a few years down the road? I fully agree with Gustavo, Russ, and everyone else who has come to the defense of TopSpeed here. While it's Ok to point out some of Clarion's shortcomings and workarounds on this Forum, promoting a competing product inhales nothing but bad air, Peter. Hal Heindel www.printfire.com www.morningflighthelp.com    Report

04-04-2007, 9:20 PM mbayles Joined on 10-21-2005 Hobart, Tasmania - Australia Posts 3 Re: Clarion 100 / IronSpeed 1 I have been going since Clarion for DOS 2.1 days!!! I have faith. "Good things come to those who wait." Keep up the good work SV! Cheers    Report

07-24-2007, 4:53 PM Rhys Daniell Joined on 07-25-2007 Posts 1 Re: Clarion 100 / IronSpeed 0 What's going on here? The title of the original post suggests that Peter wasn't keen on Ironspeed. If it was so objectionable, why wasn't the entire thread removed? As someone who's just wasted a week on IronSpeed [TreacleSpeed] I'm interested in Peter's thoughts. Fwiw I'm about to submit a story to ClarionMag about my experience. As far as I can see IronSpeed is a great advertisement for Clarion ...    Report

07-25-2007, 3:03 AM MikeHanson Joined on 10-24-2005 Toronto, Canada Posts 171 Re: Clarion 100 / IronSpeed 0  Rhys Daniell wrote: What's going on here? The title of the original post suggests that Peter wasn't keen on Ironspeed. If it was so objectionable, why wasn't the entire thread removed? Actually, the original subject had it the other way around.  One of the moderators switched the heading around, then locked the thread (although it appears to be unlocked now).  I'm not sure why they didn't just delete it.  Perhaps the flurry of "Clarion is great!" messages were sufficient to refute the original troll, and the moderator didn't want it to degrade (inevitably) into a flame fest.    Report

02-10-2008, 8:21 AM DOSguy Joined on 02-10-2008 Posts 1 Re: Clarion 100 / IronSpeed 0 Your post caught my eye. I too have been using Clarion since the late 80s. I have a question about clarion 3 DOS which you may be able to help me with. A porgrammer I had wrote a bunch of programs for me. He bypassed the app generator and used the text editor. These CLA files complile just fine into their own EXEs. So, in order to make better sense out of this mess, I decided to create an application with a menu that would call all of these CLA files. I imported them as source procedures, and separated the data and screen parts from the code. I've used this technique beore, and I know how to make them work. The pull down menu calls each source procedure. The new app was compliling the app just fine, then I started getting error messages which said: Link error: basic is unresolved in CRSutil60.obj. I panicked and began deleting procedures, etc. to try to find the offending one, but the link errors continued, only pointing to a different obj file in the tree. I know I should not be using DOS, but porting over to another platform right now is not in the cards. DO you have any ideas what could be causing this message? It comes right at the end, after creating the obj files, right before linking abd compiling the final exe. Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Craig CRS 412-841-4495 800-219-8603    Report

02-10-2008, 10:35 AM zmicro Joined on 08-25-2006 Posts 5 Re: Clarion 100 / IronSpeed 0 It almost sounds like you are using a BASIC file driver in your CRSutil60 procedure, and that the BASIC file driver is not included in your project.   If you are using a basic file driver somewhere, double check to make sure you have included that driver.   Good luck.    Report

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